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Nissan Rolls Out Its 2nd Electric Vehicle

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Elizabeth M
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Smart move from Nissan
Elizabeth M   6/19/2014 6:11:12 AM
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This is definitely a smart move for Nissan and a great option for small fleets of cargo vans in cities where pollution and noise from these type of vehicles is a big problem. It's also quite a nice-looking vehicle! This is the way forward for electrics. It shows Nissan really thinking of the best markets for new EVs before it just puts out a new car. Well done, Nissan.

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Re: Smart move from Nissan
naperlou   6/19/2014 10:59:06 AM
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Cap'n, I have to agree with Elizabeth.  Many of these new technologies (EV, natural gas powered, fuel cell) for which a "fuel" distribution system is not employed are better suited to fleet use in limited geographic area.  As I have mentioned before, a local concrete contractor is converting its fleet to natural (really LP) gas.  Government should also do this.  Especially local government.  They all refuel at their own stations and operate in a limited geographic area.

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Charles Murray   6/19/2014 11:20:18 AM
I agree with both of you. I've been writing about electric vehicles since 1988, and for at least the last 20 years, automotive engineers and industry analysts have been telling me that the best application of electric powertrain tech is in fleet-based delivery trucks. Why? Because fleets, unlike individuals, are predictable. The predictability factor -- how many miles you will drive every day -- is hugely important. For many individuals, electric powertrains don't fit their lifestyle because they have occasional -- even rare -- longer trips. And they don't want to rent a car after they've paid $30K for their EV. But many (not all) fleets know where they'll be every day and how much time they have to charge up. 

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Charles Murray   6/19/2014 11:21:39 AM
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Yes, I agree with you about the look of the vehicle, Liz. Very impressive.

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naperlou   6/19/2014 11:59:22 AM
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Chuck, another interesting twist on fleet delivery vehicle usage is that these tend to be start-stop heavy applications.  EVs are perfect for that.

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Charles Murray   6/19/2014 12:04:30 PM
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Yes, naperlou, starting and stopping tends to favor an electric powertrain. Regenerative braking definitely helps there. Whereas gasoline-burning vehicles tend to have mpg's on the highway, pure electric cars do better in the city.

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Power for carrying High loads
Mydesign   6/20/2014 12:34:30 AM
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"Auto industry analysts have long contended that electric powertrains are a good fit for delivery trucks. In delivery trucks, driving routes are short and predictable, making the limited range of EVs less of an issue. Also, fleet customers like the fact that operating costs of EVs are lower than those of gas-burning vehicles."

Charles, you are right about pollution and operational cost of EVs, but what about the power? Will it able to carry a high load cargo within the city for a whole day.

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Cabe Atwell   6/20/2014 1:15:02 AM
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Seems Harley Davidson is getting in on the whole EV trend as well with their new LiveWire superbike.

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NadineJ   6/20/2014 12:46:27 PM
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It would be interesting to see if services like Amazon Fresh or Google Shopping Express, and their sub-contractors, would switch their fleets to something like this.  It's a popular service.  There are so many on the road.  It would be great if they used more EVs.

 

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NadineJ   6/20/2014 12:52:11 PM
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I don't see Harley-Davidson as an innovator.  I'm curious to ride the actual bike when it's ready.  But, knowing Harley, when is the biggest question. Speed to market is not their strength.

Electric bicycles have been up trending for a while now. The prices are finally coming down so they're more popular.

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