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Slideshow: Why California Matters to the EV Market

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Pubudu
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Re: fuel economy standards are the way to go
Pubudu   2/27/2014 2:24:20 PM
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Charles nice illustration, What I find on hat is all the main car manufactures has taken the step for the EVs. 

Pubudu
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Re: fuel economy standards are the way to go
Pubudu   2/27/2014 2:17:37 PM
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ChriSharek , What if the vehicle get stuck in the night, Do they have to wait till the morning. 

Bunter
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Re: Just another Tax.
Bunter   2/27/2014 2:17:04 PM
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Probably can't kick CA out-but it is interesting that more folks are mulling the concept of secession than at any previous time in my 54+ orbits of the glowing gas ball.

Gee, wonder if the NSA is checking in.

 

Dennis

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Re: Just another Tax.
GTOlover   2/27/2014 1:17:37 PM
No need to kick them out of the union if they would enforce current immigration laws. Besides, high speed rail will be the ticket when the politicians determine that the zero emissions requirements are not being met and carmakers are restricted on selling ICE vehicles.

LetoAtreidesII
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Just another Tax.
LetoAtreidesII   2/27/2014 11:57:42 AM
What will most likely end up happening is the Auto companies will have to sell these vechiles at a loss to get enough people to buy them and then make up for it on the other models.  Just as goverment always does it will be a hidden tax on those of us that do not conform to the will of the almighty rulers.  When will the plebes in California finally get this through their skull?

Can we Kick a state out of the Union< Just asking?

Bunter
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Re: What Happens if?
Bunter   2/27/2014 9:25:40 AM
Hi Charles,

You hit the bullseye with this quote "You can mandate supply, but you cannot mandate demand."  It really sums the issue up very neatly.

Even with a lower price this year the Volt (which seems a neat little car) saw it's sales stagnate.  With the exception of Tesla the market was not encouraging. 

I remember when the retro Ford Thunderbird came out the demand was very high.  Then it crashed hard.  By the time the Chevy SSR came out everyone that wanted a retro-cool ride had one and it was a flop (I like the SSR better, it was late to the party).

The market was hot, but not very deep.  No legs.

I suspect that the current market, for the range/price/utility mix possible with current technology (and the tech probable in, say, the next ten years), may be saturating for EVs. 

It may not be a sustainable market at this point. Not deep.  No legs. (Cue ZZTop)

Cheerio,

Dennis

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Re: Let the market decide
danharres   2/27/2014 8:56:07 AM
g-whiz,

 

Agreed.  California thinks it's being cool and hip, but what it really is is a bunch of little Nazis trying to get everyone to conform to their "progressive" attitude.  People vote with their feet.

Charles Murray
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Re: What Happens if?
Charles Murray   2/26/2014 10:34:53 PM
That's the real question, Davek3gau. Notice the comment in the story from the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers: "You can mandate supply, but you cannot mandate demand." As he suggests, I think California would have to revisit the whole idea. So would Connecticut, Maryland, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Oregon, Vermont and whatever other states adopt this measure.

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Charles Murray   2/26/2014 10:28:09 PM
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G-whiz, you've touched on an issue I've wondered about for a long. I, too, wonder who other than wealthy early adopters would buy a $40,000 second car. Most of the people who I know use a klunker as their second car for trips around town.

mr88cet
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Re: fuel economy standards are the way to go
mr88cet   2/26/2014 12:49:18 PM
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(Also Tesla's ~35-minute, 80%-charge stations are free-of-charge, I'm told!)

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