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Slideshow: Toyota Moves Closer to Fuel Cell Production Car

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Andrew P.
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Re: watch your catalytic converter
Andrew P.   12/17/2013 1:32:18 PM
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naperlou, fuel cell cars don't need a catalytic converter at all and what platinum they use will presumably be buried so deep inside the bodywork that it will be impractical for thieves to steal the fuel cell.

naperlou
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watch your catalytic converter
naperlou   12/17/2013 1:03:46 PM
Can'n, one thing that concerns me about fuel cells is that they use platinum.  This is a material that is very expensive and not very abundant (hence the high price).  It is used in catalytic converters on cars today.  We already have a problem with people cutting off the catalytic converters off of cars (mostly SUVs because they are easier to get to) for the platinum.  I heard on the news recently that here in Naperville we had eight stolen in one day (night).  This could become another problem as it will up the price dramatically.

TJ McDermott
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Learning from Tesla
TJ McDermott   12/17/2013 10:05:21 AM
The second slide shows where the high pressure tanks will go.  Hopefully, Toyota will learn from Tesla's experience and armor-plate the underside.  Otherwise, puncturing a 70 MPa tank will make the Tesla battery fires look like mere sparks.

 

TJ McDermott
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The car is the easy part
TJ McDermott   12/17/2013 10:01:31 AM
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Producing a viable fuel-cell vehicle is actually the easy part.  The infrastructure to fuel it is the hard part.

GTOlover
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Re: Road Test
GTOlover   12/17/2013 9:05:33 AM
I have to agree with tekochip, it is nice to see the technology put out for road testing. However, I think the plan for these manufacturers is to make a stable of zero emmisions compliant vehicles for the CA market so they can continue to sell a boatload of ICE vehicles. The EV would seem the most logical route given the number of models available. However, I think the EV line is flat lining until the battery range is extended or the charge time is significantly reduced. Therefore, the auto companies have to roll into another zero emission platform to get the numbers.

I also think this is kind of a marketing ploy. Nothing like driving something very few other people have makes people buy these things. Sort of like having the latest and greatest smart phone (though the comparison is weak, CA has lots of religous environmentalists who will spend cash on the latest and greatest).

By the way, is the fuel cell vehicle market also distorted with absurd tax subsidies? Will my tax dollar be helping people buy this car?

tekochip
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Road Test
tekochip   12/17/2013 8:52:55 AM
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I know there are many people that will instantly point out what is not possible when looking at a new technology, but I'm always pleasantly surprised to see companies that are willing to put their new ideas to a road test.  Even in failure, much more is learned from building a product than debating it.


Elizabeth M
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Nice-looking car
Elizabeth M   12/17/2013 6:22:00 AM
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That is quite a nice-looking car and its great to see these innovative designs for hydrogen-powered vehicles finally set to hit the mainstream. It's promising that three of the top car companies in the world will soon make them commercially available, even if there are still challenges ahead in terms of the technology and the numbers that will reach the market are small.

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