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Slideshow: Chrysler Rolls Out All-Electric Fiat

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GTOlover
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Yes it is a compliance vehicle!
GTOlover   12/3/2012 8:21:26 AM
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CEO's are like politicians, if their lips are moving, they are spinning the truth. I will not go so far as to say that he is lieing, but even this short article reveals that the Fiat 500e is only going to be sold in CA. So if it is not a "compliance vehicle" why not expand the market as large as possible. Has anyone noticed that Suzuki cars is dead? Why? They had few dealerships and no market penetration. If these guys are serious about the future of electric vehicles, market them nationwide! We are always hearing about economy of scale. Then scale it up!

Maybe the CEO is right, they cannot make a profit on them so now they simply make enough to remain compliant. Then they turn around and market their real profit vehicles, trucks and luxury vehicles! But hey the Viper is coming back!!! Rich people in CA want to buy that, so then Chrysler needs to be compliant to sell in CA.

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Good choice
naperlou   12/3/2012 9:28:26 AM
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Cap'n, as far as electric vehicles (and to some extent hybrids) go, it is important to have a design that is appropriate for the technology.  The first successful hybrid, the Prius, was a totally new design.  I recently saw an original one, by the way.  It is TINY!  The car was going 55 in the right lane on an Interstate with a 65 MPH speed limit.  There was a long line behind it.  It looked so antiquated. 

The 500 is an old model designation for Fiat.  I have an Italian engineer friend who had one in Milan when he was young.  When the 500 first came out in the US I asked him if he was going to get one.  His response was along the lines of are you kidding?

It is interesting as far as the 500e goes that they worked on the aerodynamics, but not the weight.  A curb weight of 2,980 lbs is not light.  It must be due to the battery.  On the other hand, why are more composites not used in the body?  That would also extend the range.

tekochip
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Production
tekochip   12/3/2012 10:09:02 AM
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Let's see if they get the vehicle to production.  It's small, but the speed and range are good enough for the average commute.  The big question is if they can get it into production, and sell it.

Cabe Atwell
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Re: Production
Cabe Atwell   12/3/2012 4:31:08 PM
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The constant stress I have to keep my phone charges, will soon apply to my car. I have to say, I am not looking forward to that. I'm hoping that wireless power transfer options will be prevalent when EVs are affordable to most people. (IE: see Witricity)

Also, 80 mile range is great for a zip-car style rental service, but I shy away from that for a regular car. I'd say at least 150 is target. Anyone here have an EV?

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NadineJ
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NadineJ   12/3/2012 6:10:12 PM
I could get excited if the car weren't so unattractive.  Fiat may not be an innovation laeader but this looks like they're just playing catch up.  And, doing it poorly.

Charles Murray
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Re: Production
Charles Murray   12/3/2012 6:34:42 PM
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I do believe this car will go to production, tekochip. Sales, however, may be another matter.

Charles Murray
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Charles Murray   12/3/2012 6:42:56 PM
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The battery is 24-kWh and is made up of 97 lithium-ion cells, naperlou, so, yes, it's big. It does use some composite materials, according to the press materials, but it's not clear yet where the composites will be used.

Charles Murray
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Re: Production
Charles Murray   12/3/2012 6:46:34 PM
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Cabe, you've raised a point that is seldom brought up. Right now, the owners of EVs tend to be early adopters who seem to have no issues with re-charging their cars. But will all consumers have the necessary patience to deal with the required recharging times?

Rob Spiegel
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Re: Production
Rob Spiegel   12/3/2012 8:49:16 PM
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Nice slide show, Chuck. It's good to see Chrysler/Fiat get in the EV game. I especially like the interior of the car. 

Mydesign
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Fiat joints to EV sector
Mydesign   12/4/2012 6:10:48 AM
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Charles, finally Fiat also joints with the EV sector by introducing Fiat 500e. Any test drive result data sheet is available for reference. What about  the market opinion and how fiat is distinguishing their product from other competitors.

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