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Auto Vehicle-to-Vehicle Comms Viewed as Life Saver

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rhayashi
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Re: V2V Comms - info overload?
rhayashi   11/8/2013 2:08:34 PM
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I had been thinking of a visual system to rate drivers ability. A car mounted paint ball gun for those who follow too close or cut me off, straddle lanes etc. Color coded or just positional placement. A car with his back end covered in paint would tell police and other drivers what kind of driver he is. A V2V would let me verbally communicate to him his latest sudden lane change was not a safe move and perhaps should plan ahead his route and lane placement. DashCam technology should be intergated into new cars too.

Charles Murray
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Re: Plan or React
Charles Murray   3/29/2012 10:08:41 PM
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Good question, Chaschas. In the long run, I believe the plan is to have this technology work with such features as adaptive cruise control and collision avoidance. Ultimately, the plan would be to have the vehicle take over the braking for you.

Charles Murray
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Re: V2V comment
Charles Murray   3/15/2012 8:30:04 PM
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It's a legitimate concern, ve3eoq. I've avoiding commenting on it -- not because I disagree -- but because I really don't know much about the ways of mitigating it.

ve3eoq
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ve3eoq   3/14/2012 3:54:23 PM
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We are forgetting one thing here. BIG BROTHER!

Charles Murray
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Re: Auto vehicle to vehicle communications.
Charles Murray   3/6/2012 6:43:25 PM
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Two of the most enthusiastic promoters of this technology are the Consumers Union and the Center for Automotive Research, neither of which are selling any technologies. Both have studied this and have predicted an 80% reduction in fatalities.   

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Auto vehicle to vehicle communications.
William K.   3/5/2012 8:51:52 PM
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Notice that the first things mentioned are the technologies that will be sold to implement this new gimmick. That tells me that those most enthusiasticly promoting it are the ones with a product to sell. Which, if you can get a law passed that all must purchase your product, you will get rich. 

The instant problem will be in product liability, meaning that now many fools will presume that part of their driving task is no longer their responsibility, and they will drive, and sue, accordingly. I would not want to be the legally responsible producer of such equipment. There will certainly be a lot of lawsuits when fools start buying these systems. A system that provides the driver with sensed information about other vehicles would be a much better idea. This could include radar to track path and rate of closure, thus providing a warning to take corrective, or evasive, action. 

But the very worst problem will come from the same direction as those nasty computer viruses come from: false information, such as reporting that the car ahead is going slower than it really is, or that it is stopping. And certainly the communications will include a vehicle identity, and probably driver identity, code, so that it will be a trivial matter to send out traffic citations for any percieved violation, rather real or not. And in that area, consider the really easy possibility of "vehicle identity theft", where one would be given citations earned by others.

The reality is that V2V communications would be a theoretical benefit primarily to those who should not be driving at all because they don't pay attention tom their surroundings. It would indeed be a large step toward the implementation of "utopia", where Big Brother is constantly monitoring our every action, so as to make sure that we never do anything "out of line", or anything different from all others.

Probably the one idea that is worse than this would be an in-vehicle booze dispenser. I have seen one of those and I do NOT recommend them.

Charles Murray
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Re: Plan or React
Charles Murray   3/5/2012 7:33:06 PM
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Great article on driverless cars in the Wall Street Journal today, tmash.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203986604577257313844244748.html

Charles Murray
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Re: Yes, but....
Charles Murray   3/2/2012 6:45:49 PM
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I think V2V is very likley going to happen, HowieD231, and I think that the automatic summons is also likely to follow, just as you predict. If there's money in it, local municipalities will figure out a way to get their hands on it.

tmash
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Re: Plan or React
tmash   3/2/2012 4:22:26 AM
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It will be very pointless to use V2V comm technology if its simple anotherway to cut down on human error. Human drivers will always be faulty whether you are naturally a good planner or you are not.

V2V communication research has been going on for over a decade and the technology can  easly  intergrate with currect navigation systems but that does not stop accidents happening and it will be a poor model to use the technology on.

Now that driverless cars are nearly into production , then so is the V2V Comm technology and its part of the driverless system design. The technology does the planning and where posible the reaction but the later will rarely happen unless there is a systems design error.

 

The only planning you will do then is to tell the Car your destination , either by voice or touch screen device like your ipad...i guess more intelligent pads by then.

vimalkumarp
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Auto Vehicle-to-Vehicle Comms Viewed as Life Saver
vimalkumarp   3/2/2012 3:52:14 AM
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Auto Vehicle-to-Vehicle Comms Viewed as Life Saver is an important step once implemented. This is indeed is a best example to showcase how technology can be used to enhance human life

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