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Building Out the Internet of Things With Printed Electronic Smart Labels
7/2/2013

Memory and sensors together in a disposable electronic label.   (Source: Thin Film Electronics)
Memory and sensors together in a disposable electronic label.
(Source: Thin Film Electronics)

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Cabe Atwell
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Re: Environmental issues with smart labels
Cabe Atwell   7/31/2013 7:10:06 PM
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Apparently, some engineers from Samsung Electro-Mechanics have found a way to synthesize organic-soluble silver nanoparticles for use in printed electronics, which are environmentally friendly.

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Mydesign   7/15/2013 11:58:55 PM
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"Most of these solutions do not use an MAC address for each device. Instead there is a small local network in your home using Zigbee, ANT, or whatever for each device. That small network communicates with your home's gateway which then communicates with the cloud."

Technochip, thanks for the clarification. I think it's a good solution too.

William K.
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William K.   7/11/2013 9:39:46 PM
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So the actual best choice for all of the little devices is to have a different type of addresses, not internet protocol. A single interface package that can handle the message formatting and priority setting would reduce the burden on the web, and avoid the problem of all those addresses.

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tekochip   7/10/2013 7:52:35 AM
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Most of these solutions do not use an MAC address for each device.  Instead there is a small local network in your home using Zigbee, ANT, or whatever for each device.  That small network communicates with your home's gateway which then communicates with the cloud.

Mydesign
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Mydesign   7/10/2013 12:06:36 AM
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"what I mean is that those who propose to give every little thing a specific internet identity have chosen to ignore the fact that those identities will remain assigned long after each light bulb has failed and every little appliance has been assigned to a landfill."

Willaim, that's drawback, so somebody has to either remove or destroy that ID and can reassign the same ID to some other new devices.

William K.
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William K.   7/8/2013 9:11:24 AM
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Very exactly, what I mean is that those who propose to give every little thing a specific internet identity have chosen to ignore the fact that those identities will remain assigned long after each light bulb has failed and every little appliance has been assigned to a landfill. But since it will not be their problem it is ignored. If these small devices had a LAn identity of some sort then the situation would be different. But to assign an actual address to each and every item because they can is a poor choice.

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Mydesign   7/8/2013 3:36:45 AM
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Willaim, you mean that all our plans are beyond schedule or even we are not able to foreseen the consequence well in advance.

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Mydesign   7/8/2013 3:18:36 AM
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"Smart labels are printed on polymer using inks instead of being based on silicon. It is a more cost-effective way of creating electronics at high-volume"

Thinfilm, thanks for the clarification. Whether this inks are capable to carry the signal.



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Re: Environmental issues with smart labels
William K.   7/4/2013 12:10:09 PM
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OK, and interesting, and it makes a lot more sense. But don't think that just because there are lots of identities available today that it will last. Some fools want to give every light bulb and appliance an address. So when the (whatever) is idscarded now we have the ID of a dead thing. Sort of like when several hundred dead people voted for Huey Long in Louisianna a while back. MY point being that sometimes dumb things come back on you, long after they are done. Just because it seems like an OK idea today does not mean that it won't be a big problem in two years. That has happened before. Just look at global warming, if you believe that it is caused by "our harmless friend", Carbon Dioxide. 15 years ago it was the automotive emissions target goal.

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Thinfilm   7/4/2013 8:30:41 AM
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Smart labels are printed on polymer using inks instead of being based on silicon. It is a more cost-effective way of creating electronics at high-volume.

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