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Machines Can’t Do What Engineers Do So Well

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Mydesign
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Mydesign   3/18/2014 6:35:09 AM
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"Standard robotic systems are great at following a script, which is what most jobs call for most of the time. BUT, Just Exactly like most computer systems, they are not usually able to handle exceptions. That is why robotic driven cars are a poor choice. When a computer system runs into an exception it usually stops, except when they crash. Either response is not what we would hope for from a car or from an emergency responder. Most emergencies wind up being exceptions, after all."

William, you are right. Robots are poor in exceptional handling and such situations can lead to misbehavior, where the damages are unpredictable based on the areas of deployment.

William K.
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William K.   3/17/2014 12:27:29 PM
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Standard robotic systems are great at following a script, which is what most jobs call for most of the time. BUT, Just Exactly like most computer systems, they are not usually able to handle exceptions. That is why robotic driven cars are a poor choice. When a computer system runs into an exception it usually stops, except when they crash. Either response is not what we would hope for from a car or from an emergency responder. Most emergencies wind up being exceptions, after all.

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Mydesign   3/17/2014 10:59:16 AM
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"They can be accurate but what happens for quick decision making processes? They are being pre-programmed so anything out of the boundary will make them very un-comfortable. That might lead to many disasters. "

Saji, I won't think they are quick in decision making especially when inputs are not as desired.

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Mydesign   3/17/2014 10:57:45 AM
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"Robots are the best choice for dangerous, dirty, damanding, and boring tasks. The best application of all for a robot, which would win the greatest applause, is the job of collecting unexploded ordinance from practice ranges and battlefields. Those items are so very dangerous because they are intended to be dangerous, and some failure has temporarily halted their functioning. "

You are right Willaim. They are good at battle field and nuclear stations, where human presence is not possible and at dangerous situations.

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Debera Harward   3/17/2014 3:47:32 AM
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a.saji yes as William informed that decision making is being taking place in robots as well but in linear process , but this is the initial stage of robotics definitely no doubt they are taking decisions but they need to be observed by humans as well but in near future we should hope that a lot more will be done by Robots with little intervention of humans, 

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William K.   3/11/2014 9:30:20 PM
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@a.saji ,  What is quite exciting is that those robots with touch sensing and the ones using machine vision are indeed making decisions based on sensor information. And they are doing it in a "linear" manner, rather than the classic If-Then mode. So really, robots are doing decision making, although it is still within a limited area. That limitation is good because robotic decisions are not based on judgement but rather on algorithms, which the result is far more limited. A robot making decisions when it was not able to have and understand the data would be much more like todays legislators, who make decisions based on emotions instead of facts.

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William K.   3/11/2014 9:23:52 PM
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Debera, I agree completely, you are exactly correct. Thanks.

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a.saji   3/11/2014 3:28:25 AM
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@MyDesign: They can be accurate but what happens for quick decision making processes? They are being pre-programmed so anything out of the boundary will make them very un-comfortable. That might lead to many disasters. 

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Debera Harward   3/11/2014 2:51:27 AM
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William, That is what i meant to say we cant totally or blindly rely on gut feeling we must have enough scientific knowledge to use the gut feeling . I have read somewhere Jackwelsh said one must know when to use the gut feeling and that knowing of when to use gut feeling is about acquiring of scientific evidence .

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William K.   3/10/2014 9:08:22 PM
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MyDesign, you are certainly right. Robots are the best choice for dangerous, dirty, damanding, and boring tasks. The best application of all for a robot, which would win the greatest applause, is the job of collecting unexploded ordinance from practice ranges and battlefields. Those items are so very dangerous because they are intended to be dangerous, and some failure has temporarily halted their functioning. 

I did a design with a robotic loader for a trim press, which is much safer than collecting failed ordinance, but still a dangerous and dreadfully boring job. The displaced operator was moved away from the press and assigned to placing the parts on a conveyer that fed them up to the robot. Still a boring job, but one whole lot safer. The operators loved it, the safety man loved it, the bosses loved it, and the union loved it. That's about as good as a project can get.

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